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50 Gallon RIM system

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:55 am
by Imakewort
When I get back I am thinking of building a 50 gallon system modeled after my system using Blichmann pots and my stand or build another stand , If I built another I could also use my system. And I need to find a manufacture of 55 gallon conical's, and if needed I can modify it for glycol chilling and i am willing to buy a commerical glycol chiller. So think it could work making 1.5 barrels at a time. Sam Calagione started out using a Sabco system and built it up into Dogfish Head Brewery.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:44 am
by aleguy
Blichman makes the 55-gallon conicals. I don't know about jacketing it. It can be done, but it won't be a simple spiral. You would have to snake the pipes vertically like an air conditioner condenser and bend the whole thing around the Fermenator.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:18 am
by Imakewort
I priced the conicals from Blichmann and they are pricey, I am thinking of buying A commercial conical from these people, I have been emailing them and have a quote. for the price i get a lot more http://www.pbstbeer.com/special.html they come with all the necessary items stock, come insulated and ready to hook up to a glycol line. And the price per barrel is close to a blichmann.
I would like to do 2 barrel batches from a 1 barrel system, Right now I can not remember or find the information on how to get the fermentation started then add the other batch of wort i guess I will ask the BN army

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:41 pm
by yeastmeister
Should be interesting to see. Of course, we will help out where we can. As far as doing 2 barrels, Assuming you are talking about having 2 barrels of fermentation space, and only 1 barrel of boil space, it should simply be start the first one fermenting (chill, pitch yeast, etc), after 12 or so hours, if its a single vessel, simply add the new wort into it. If its a different vessel, transfer half to the new vessel, and put half the new wort into each vessel. Effectively, its krausening on a large scale.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:18 pm
by Imakewort
that is how the really big boys do it, they have these huge fermentation tanks and there is no way to fill it from 1 boil, that way I brew 1 day chill add yeast, then brew the next day pump the oxygenated wort into the fermentation tank, 14 or so days later transfer to a brite tank

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:11 am
by aleguy
If my calculations are correct, that means you will need at least 5 and maybe 7 fermentation tanks. Assuming you have fermenters capable of holding two barrels with enough head space for the kreusen.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:58 am
by Imakewort
i am looking at 4 2.5 barrel fermentation tanks, and 4 2 barrel brite or serving tanks. these numbers can and probably will change, I might need more or less of one. I still want to do more research and work on my son's and mine businesses plan. And I would prefer a larger system, I ordered Gregory noonans book "7 barrel brewery brewers handbook" But to go that large by my self I would have to stay here longer. http://www.amazon.com/Seven-Barrel-Brewery-Brewers-Handbook/dp/1887167005/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_cart_3