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grapevine

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:54 pm
by aleguy
Does anyone know how to eradicate a grave vine? There is a volunteer grape vine that is plagueing my mom. Last spring it had hundreds of bunches of grapes that looked more like vinifera grapes than muscadine, and the leaves are shaped differently too.
I tried to talk her into leaving it until the fruit was ripe so I could try making some wine, but no dice. She hacked it back to the ground. It has come back with a vengeance. As much as I hate to kill a productive fruit plant, it has fallen to me to destroy the grape vine. Does anyone know how to kill it without digging out the roots? It is growing up through a Loquat that we would like to save.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:31 pm
by yeastmeister
Cut the stems about 6 inches above the ground, paint the open wounds with something containing 2,4-d which can be found in many of the major brand name herbicides. Also works for chinese tallow trees.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:03 pm
by redtail28
Rock salt and Yak piss work for me :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:08 am
by aleguy
I'm not using 2,4D anywhere. ever. I can get rock salt, but yak piss is a bit of a problem. I guess I'll just have to dig the roots out after all.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:14 pm
by yeastmeister
And whats your problem with 2,4d? Rock salt will poison the soil, where direct application of 2,4-d to the stems will kill only the plant that "ingests" it. Better living through chemistry.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:01 pm
by Imakewort
use round up :lol: will not poison the soil like rock salt, if you use rock salt nothing will grow there for a long time

PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:14 pm
by redtail28
Yes a good old shovel will do the trick.
I searched the web but could not find
a good site on how to use one :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:18 pm
by aleguy
2,4D is persistent in the soil. It does not break down significantly and can poison the soil life indefinitely. rock salt will poison the soil, but a minor application of gypsum will neutralize it.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:09 pm
by redtail28
Hey I have a great idea how about instead of killing
This grape vine, what about putting it into a relocation
Program. :P :lol: No think about it, fine some back
Road, plant it with care and next year pick the fruit and
Presto wine, mead fruit beer. :D

PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:49 pm
by Imakewort
Great idea :lol: think how relocating that wonderful plant would help the earth, plus your not killing one of mother natures little miracles

PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:17 pm
by alms66
Hell, I have a yard with lots of fence for grape to spread out on... I'll adopt it if no one else will.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:49 pm
by triple-oh_six
redtail28 wrote:Hey I have a great idea how about instead of killing
This grape vine, what about putting it into a relocation
Program


I think that this is your most prudent choice, ....................unless you are a pro-death liberal :roll:

Sorry, couldn't help myself,......hippie :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:33 am
by aleguy
I'm not a hippie,I'm a liberal, so of course I'm pro death. (got a little goth mixed in.) Anyway, I'd love to move it, but it is growing through the roots of a loquat. I'll see if I can get it bare-rooted in time for the next meeting. I wouldn't expext any fruit for a few years after transplanting though.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:20 pm
by aleguy
sorry, the grape vine extraction is a no-go. There's no possibility of removing it intact without cutting down the tree. Does anyone know the proper way to take cuttings at this time of year? I could find out, but if we have a viticulturist in the group?