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whiskey barrels

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:17 pm
by jimmiec
I got a quote from Dawn Distributing, their used (refillable) barrels are $70 (with a minimum order of 4) and the shipping (to a business) for 4 would $170.59. So 4 barrels and shipping would total $450.59. Anyone interested? I could buy one of the barrels. Would definitely need help filling it up.

I was mostly interested in how much to ship a barrel.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:34 pm
by aleguy
As usual, the shipping costs more than the barrels. I would definitely be interested in a barrel or two if we could somehow reduce or eliminate the crazy shipping costs. The original price is only a little bit less than Lowe's charges for two half barrels. So there HAS to be a much cheaper shipping option. I have to wonder if they're shipping the full of water.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:39 pm
by jimmiec
The shipping is based on number of pallets not weight.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:52 pm
by sdspespo1
Would you spend more travelling to say.. Tenn., with gas and hotel to pick them up plus the time and energy (off work etc) vs. haveing them delivered to us. I (would) buy one. Discussed serval people contributing to the ptoduction and could make 4 different beers wtih them over a few to several week period

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:18 pm
by aleguy
Shipping also goes by weigh. Seems like four of then should fit on a pallet. At least three should. The cost of the barrels isn't too much, but the shipping is just too high. I thinkmif smeone were going to Tenesee or Kentucky on vacation anyway, the actual extra gas for hauling a flatbed trailer would be minimal. I'm sure we could get enough barrels on one that everyone in the club who wants one or two could have them at much more reasonable cost.
I DO want a barrel or three, I just want to find a way to get the shipping down to half or less the cost of the barrels themselves!

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:42 pm
by jimmiec
It ends up being $42.65 for shipping per barrel. So 1 barrel is 112.65. I'm not sure how many fit on a pallet but 4 is the minimum. We might be able to get more on the pallet.

I'm in for one. If 3 others want one then we are set.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:02 pm
by yeastmeister
4 barrels should fit on a pallet. Pallets are not shipped by weight, they are shipped by pallet. 2450 lbs can fit on a pallet for the same price as 10 lbs.

That price doesn't seem too bad considering the distance from Louisiana. We pay approx $150 for the grain pallets which includes a fuel surcharge, and a call before delivery charge.

Be aware of a few things. A new 59 lb oak barrel weighs approximately 120 lbs empty. A full barrel weighs almost 600 lbs. Thats a lot of beer to fill a barrel. Not sure how we could fill that much, or where we could store it. I can definitely find space to store at least 1 barrel, but not sure about 4. I'm betting they would each need to be mounted on a separate pallet, with some sort of mounting to keep them from rolling. And they a fork lift would be required to move that sucker.

If barrels are not kept wet, they need to be rehydrated to use. That takes 24 hours of continuous submersion. When they are dry, they leak water out faster than you can fill it.

Not saying no, just be aware of the size of the task your thinking about undertaking.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:28 pm
by aleguy
I see the barrels as aging containers initially. So there's no problem letting several batches ferment out, then aging them together in the barrel. Unfortunately, shipping is still more than the cost of the barrels.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:34 am
by yeastmeister
Not sure where you are getting shipping is more than the barrel. Jimmiec already said the barrels are $70, and the shipping is $42.65. Unless you have invented a new form of math that we are unaware of, 42 is less than 70.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:49 am
by aleguy
Oops. I saw $170 for four and mistook that for the price of the barrels. It was actually the shipping costs. He's right. This is a reasonable price for whiskey barrels. I might be in for one if he doesn't sell them all before my next payday.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:52 am
by aleguy
I just wish I had enough wet cooperage skills to cut one down to Firkin size!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:54 am
by jimmiec
I didn't place the order or anything. They said to let them know and they would send an invoice and ship once they received payment.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:58 am
by aleguy
I won't have the money for at least four weeks. So if you have enough others, don't wait on me. I figure five 10-gallon batches will fill it. I only have fermentation space for three, so I will need three more carboys, and five more kegs. This is going to get expensive fast.