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Worm • Newbie • Greenhorn (sort of)

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:41 pm
by johnsaul
I have been reading about brews and brewing for a couple of years now. I have stovetop-brewed several batches of beer with great success. I have purchased the Cornelius Keg dispensing system and like it. Recently I have acquired a large ice dispenser (the kind out in front of convenience stores) for housing several corny kegs and have fixed it up. It'll house about 12 kegs plus lots of room on top of the kegs too. Very similar to the cool room I've seen on Deadyeast links but more compact and not quite as much room or expense. I have also recently acquired a small, hand operated grist-type mill to start my own mash. And finally, I've come by three full size kegs (15.5's), used and blemished but perfect for a brew system. SO... after all the above B.S. history and such, my question is simply; I'm looking for different plans and designs of brew systems to compare and contrast in order to build a larger than occasional brew system. I tend to lean towards auto processes but don't mind getting filthy. Pumps and silicone tubing look good to me. The garden waterer (controller box) also seems like to great way to go. I need design and component help mostly.

Also... I am quite interested in collecting yeast strains. I have been searching (the USA) for an inexpensive dewar for nitrogen storage of yeast strains and apparently, inexpensive+dewar is an oxymoron similar to jumbo+shrimp! :? I have not purchased a conical fermentor yet and would ask you guys that have them or have used them for input. I have seen a huge price difference between models/manufacturers and wonder why.

Finally, does anybody have a recipe for the chilada type beer budweiser is selling now? I find on warm days it's good for imbibing large keep cool of course! :D I favor ales and porters but dumbing down to an ice chest full of ice cold chilada while fishing and such is a treat. I enjoyed a taste of somebody's Tabasco style beer (I believe a member here) about a year or so ago and figured if there was a recipe for Tabasco beer surely someone has cracked the chilada recipe too.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:14 pm
by yeastmeister
Lets get to the beer first. Ok, I'll admit, never tried a chilada beer. But I'm the guy with the tabasco beer.

If I'm researching it right, according to this wikipedia article at least, a chilada isn't brewed as much as its mixed.

So, by going by that, any mexican style light lager would work.

Most of the brew systems are variations off of mine, which is a Brutus 10 design. Most of the design changes are cosmetic. But your best bet is to show up at a few brew days and see the systems in action.

We are always here to help design a system. We have folks that are good with welding and cutting, and folks that are good with the electrics. I'm the electrical guy, but I can weld as well. Not so good at the cutting however.

Check out the sticky on best deals on brewstand parts. If your looking towards automation, thats the best place to look.

There main choice you seem to have on the automation side is going with the Love, or the Auber controllers. There are pro's and cons for both. It comes down to what you like, and the best way to see the differences is to see a system in action.

We have our christmas party on Saturday, and your welcome to show up ask questions there.

Yeast, ok, while I like the idea, Its way overthinking it to go the nitrogen system for yeast. We can show you how to plate it out and keep it pure using slants, plates, and starters. While its not as cool as nitrogen, its functional. But honestly, after running the yeast library for years, its become clear that there are only about 6 strains most folks want, and its easy to keep those in good health.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:56 am
by aleguy
First off, Yeastmeister's system is NOT repeat NOT a Brutus ten style. It is a first-generation RIMS (Recirculated Infusion Mash System) Over the years we have refined the design process so we can pretty much build a RIMS in any configuration, though we have learned many lessons regarding burners, gas lines etc. I strongly recommend seeing some of the newer systems in action before designing your own. Budrock's and Redtail's systems are probably the best ones to see as they have the most up-to-date innovations short of Jimmiec's system which is a whole other ball of wax as it was designed more for compact storage than for looks or ease of use.
I guarantee once you go all grain, you'll probably start brewing 10-gallon batches on a regular basis. For the time spent, you might as well do 10 as 5.
You didn't say what kind of mill you got, but most people just put a power drill on them rather than hand cranking. If you're looking for a permanently motorized mill set-up, no one has a sweeter malt system than Redtail. (Currently still unfinished, but the details left are minor mostly paint.) As for the rest, don't touch or cut anything until you can talk to us in person. You would not believe how many ways people (including me) have gotten it wrong. Hope to see you Saturday.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:13 am
by aleguy
Oh, and BTW,

Jus' sayin' :wink:

You can see a lot of Jimmiec's system here: ... 905&type=1


PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:33 am
by johnsaul
Love to join u fellas but work every weekend since 2004. Yes, every one.


PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:29 am
by aleguy
Our usual meetings are the first Tuesday of the month at Marcello's wine market on Johnston. We usually only do Saturday stuff for group/club brews and the Christmas party.